Weekly Comics Spotlight #146: 2010-05-26

John Mayo and Bob Bretall change things up a little and discuss some titles they don’t normally read: UNKNOWN SOLDIER #20 by DC, TALES OF THE DRAGON GUARD #3 by Marvel and AMORY WARS: IN KEEPING SECRETS OF SILENT EARTH: 3 #1 by BOOM STUDIOS.

Time Codes:

00:00 Intro

00:44 Opening Comments

05:29 DC: UNKNOWN SOLDIER #20

13:37 Marvel: TALES OF THE DRAGON GUARD #3

23:10 Other: AMORY WARS: IN KEEPING SECRETS OF SILENT EARTH: 3 #1 [BOOM STUDIOS]

35:40 General discussion

37:30 Next Week Promo

37:42 Wrap up

38:12 End of episode.

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11 thoughts on “Weekly Comics Spotlight #146: 2010-05-26

  1. if you want to know where the Amory Wars universe canonically begins, read the novel Year of the Black Rainbow.

  2. I’m sure others have rushed to explain The Amory Wars to you, but just in case they haven’t: http://cobaltandcalcium.com/story/ That is a great place to delve into every aspect you missed out on when reading. The band is based on the comics, not the other way around. They make concept albums in which the lyrics tell the story of those comics… So! I hope that helps clear things up. I know the comics are a bit confusing, even when you KNOW the story.

  3. hey dudes. good show. im a big fan of coheed and cambria and the amory wars series. and just wanted to let you guys know, Coheed and Cambria is a concept band. the concept being the Amory wars. their five albums all tell the story of the Amory wars. and trust me you’re gonna have to read the earlier series in order to understand this one haha trust me on that. Its really confusing and most people just don’t understand, but the fans eat this series up!!!!! heres a link to the cult like following: http://forums.cobaltandcalcium.com/index.php
    i dont know if you guys really read this, but if you do i hope this clears some stuff up, if not, then i just wasted my time haha!

  4. Just a little info for you guys. All 5 of Coheed & Cambria’s albums are concept albums, telling the stories of the Amory Wars, mainly following Claudio Kilgannon, except for the newest album which is a prequel/origin story of Coheed and Cambria, who are the parents of the main character, Claudio. Also, I have to believe you’re confused on this one because you didn’t read the previous comics. You should also check out Kill Audio, a completely different comic series, which is also by Claudio Sanchez.

  5. At around 29:00 the dude says I’m on the fence LOL! We’re all one among the fence.

    BTW dude read the first Amory Wars: Second Stage Turbine Blade. It will clear up a crap ton for you. They even have a novel as the prequel to the The Amory Wars.

  6. In regards to Amory Wars: In Keeping Secrets:

    If you guys want to talk about In Keeping Secrets, you need to seriously read the stories that came before it. You can’t talk about not understanding what the heck is going on, if you didn’t read Second Stage Turbine Blade, or even the Year of the Black Rainbow novel. Second Stage Turbine Blade is hard to find, nearly impossible. But you could always download the issues from somewhere. Also, I advise, that you listen to the band’s music. The comic isn’t advertising the band, necessarily. It lets readers know: HELLO! THERE ARE SONGS THAT GO ALONG WITH THE STORY SO YOU CAN UNDERSTAND IT BETTER! So, before you talk about reviews that will most likely upset Coheed and Cambria fans and readers of the comics alike, read the rest, and give the band a long listen. It bothers fans that every review they listen to is so unfair, ignorant, and biased because the critics have never so much as even heard of Coheed and Cambria. It would do us well, that for a change, someone could say: YEAH, I READ THE STORY AND LISTENED TO THEIR SONGS. HERE IS WHAT I THINK… Don’t you think that sounds alot more pleasing? So, you can’t be on the Fence about it, if you’re not even in the Fence, or even one among the Fence. I hope that next time I listen to you two, it’ll be less upsetting, and a little more gratifying whether you end up liking the story, or not.

    -A Coheed fan and avid reader of the Amory Wars. One Among the Fence.

  7. I really enjoyed your review of the Amory Wars In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3 # 1, because I have been following the series since it’s original release, and I am a lover of the band.
    The questions you have, and the information you do not know, are explained in the first release of The Amory Wars, titled Second Stage Turbine Blade, which was recently re-released as a compiled soft cover volume.
    Also, because of the rarity of these products, you will probably not be able to buy Second Stage Turbine Blade outside of this edition, though I have gotten a few issues from comic stores in the Indie section. Older copies of the series, which was originally released as The.Bag.On.Line.Adventures, albeit with much worse artwork, auction on eBay for over $150 (link to proof at end of comment)
    Also, you may want to read Claudio Sanchez novel (co-written with Peter David) which is a prequel novel to this series, titled Year of the Black Rainbow, which is available with the deluxe edition of Coheed and Cambrias new album by the same name, it is a worthy read even for those who are not fans.
    Also, I laugh at you saying the name was so long, because you may not know it, but this is the third part of a five part series, the first part being Year of The Black Rainbow, the second being Second Stage Turbine Blade, the third being In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3. The next one, part four, was already released, it is one of the previous comics you mentioned and is titled even longer -drumroll please- Good Apollo I’m Burning Star IV: Volume One: From Fear Through The Eyes of Madness.
    Finally Coheed and Cambria is a band worth looking into, for all of the music is based off of this comic book series (or vice versa it is hard to say), and they add to each other, though it is not necessary to know both to understand. The music albums go by the same name as the comics, and I think you will enjoy all the little references if you get to know it.
    Try looking around their fansite Cobalt and Calcium .com and on the forums, and listening to some of their songs, they are actually quite accomplished, they have songs on the Rock Band video games, they recently won first place in a national MTV online competition against over 50 bands, mostly larger name bands like Paramore, Tokyo Hotel, Alice in Chains, Mastodon, My Chemical Romance, Muse, and Slipknot, and are currently on a world tour.
    Thank you so much for the review, and I hope you are interested in the series.
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270591102271#ht_500wt_1154

  8. Just for clarification on the Weekly Comics Spotlight format: We pick a comic (semi-randomly), read it, review it.

    We do not necessarily do a HUGE amount of research into the background of the comic (as we might if we were doing a back issue spotlight episode) AND, for a #1 comic, which this was, we specifically look for how reader-friendly that issue is to people who wandered in off the street, picked up the #1, and expected it to be some kind of jumping on point.

    So, our review came from an “outsider’s perspective” of Amory Wars in general. Neither of us had any perspective on the previous comics series (or the band Coheed and Cambria), and it was up to this issue to win us over. (Note also that it was just this single issue, not a series or a whole GN story-arc).

    As a matter of fact, IT SUCCEEDED with me. I am now seeking out the other material and will one day know much more. I appreciate the info provided by the people commenting on the episode. I was very intrigued & want to read more. I’ll be looking for the music of the band also.

    Anyway, that’s kind of the point of these shows. We try to look at issues as “jumping on points”. Many times we do have more insight because we are following the books. In the case of Amory Wars, we did not.

    It’s not the policy of WCS to review a book based on what background research I can find on wikipedia or other sources, it is to review the comic itself we are reading and see how well it represents itself.

  9. Hi Bob,

    I am a huge Coheed fan and just wanted to say I understand where you were both coming from the review. Not all of the fans want to criticize people for little mistakes and such in reviews…. especially when one has not even heard of the band. I have the solution for tracking down the issues. The actual Amory Wars saga, is a reboot. There were two issues printed many moons ago that are difficult to find. You don’t want those, you want The Amory Wars: The Second Stage Turbine Blade. All of the issues from that series are coming out in a hardcover with some extras soon. You can find it here for pre-order: http://www.scifigenre.com/itemDetail.aspx?nItemID=85400 I hope you enjoy. I think they are great. Have a good one!

  10. Bob, I really liked this review specifically because it WAS from an “outsider’s perspective”. I’ve been a huge fan of this band for about 8 years now, and it’s interesting to hear someone talk about it from that perspective that I had when I first got into the band / story. I’m glad you liked it, and trust me, John will too if he gives it a chance.

    The comics don’t tell the story of the music, and the music isn’t a soundtrack to the comics. Both mediums (as well as the novel) are just telling the same story. Because the novel is the prequel to the whole story, all three mediums can function completely independently of one another. But when you combine them, there’s a whole world of artistic genius and listener/reader satisfaction that opens up to you. Trust me, it’s all amazing stuff and you’ll have a really fun time exploring the world of Heaven’s Fence for the first time.

    Oh, and Cobalt really is the best possible place to learn more about the band, characters and story. http://www.cobaltandcalcium.com Enjoy!!!

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